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		<title>Comment on Goin&#8217; Mobile With The Orchestra by sfortier: Maybe a silver &#8230; &#171; Alaska Status</title>
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		<dc:creator>sfortier: Maybe a silver &#8230; &#171; Alaska Status</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Maybe a silver &#8230;  sfortier: Maybe a silver lining to all this arts bad news? http://www.insidethearts.com/buttsintheseats/2010/03/17/goin-mobile-with-the-orchestra/  March 18th, 2010 &#124; Category: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Maybe a silver &#8230;  sfortier: Maybe a silver lining to all this arts bad news? <a href="http://www.insidethearts.com/buttsintheseats/2010/03/17/goin-mobile-with-the-orchestra/" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidethearts.com/buttsintheseats/2010/03/17/goin-mobile-with-the-orchestra/</a>  March 18th, 2010 | Category: [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arts Administrator Residencies-Is There A Need? by sfortier: Arts Administra&#8230; &#171; Alaska Status</title>
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		<dc:creator>sfortier: Arts Administra&#8230; &#171; Alaska Status</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Arts Administra&#8230;  sfortier: Arts Administrator Residencies http://www.insidethearts.com/buttsintheseats/2010/03/09/arts-administrator-residencies-is-there-a-ne...  March 10th, 2010 &#124; Category: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Arts Administra&#8230;  sfortier: Arts Administrator Residencies <a href="http://www.insidethearts.com/buttsintheseats/2010/03/09/arts-administrator-residencies-is-there-a-ne.." rel="nofollow">http://www.insidethearts.com/buttsintheseats/2010/03/09/arts-administrator-residencies-is-there-a-ne..</a>.  March 10th, 2010 | Category: [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Info You Can Use: Employee or Independent Contractor by CL Jahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>CL Jahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;ve learned over 20 years as an administrator is that very few workers employed by theatres can qualify as &quot;sub-contractors.&quot; The bottom line is that the employer does not get to define the relationship;  &quot;other employers&quot; don&#039;t get to do it, only the IRS does. It&#039;s really not that hard to identify:

If you pay a person a fee, and they work on it without any direction from you, and supply you with the result by an agreed upon date and time, they are a sub-contractor.
If you expect that person to be in your building at certain hours,if you give them tools and materials to accomplish the task, they are employees.  If they are directly responsible for the product you sell, they are employees.

Office workers are employees; that includes receptionists, box office people, sales and marketing, PR, anyone you expect to be in the office, anyone you supply with a desk and a phone, anyone whose work you oversee on a daily basis are always employees.

If you send the plans to an independent shop to build the set, that&#039;s a sub-contractor.  If you own a shop and hire people to use your tools, they are employees.  Directors, choreographers, stage managers, and actors are employees. 

Your lighting designer is a sub-contractor; your master electrician is an employee.  Your costume designer is a sub-contractor, but your wardrobe mistress is an employee.

That&#039;s the real measurement, and it has nothing to do with what one believes other people are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;ve learned over 20 years as an administrator is that very few workers employed by theatres can qualify as &#8220;sub-contractors.&#8221; The bottom line is that the employer does not get to define the relationship;  &#8220;other employers&#8221; don&#8217;t get to do it, only the IRS does. It&#8217;s really not that hard to identify:</p>
<p>If you pay a person a fee, and they work on it without any direction from you, and supply you with the result by an agreed upon date and time, they are a sub-contractor.<br />
If you expect that person to be in your building at certain hours,if you give them tools and materials to accomplish the task, they are employees.  If they are directly responsible for the product you sell, they are employees.</p>
<p>Office workers are employees; that includes receptionists, box office people, sales and marketing, PR, anyone you expect to be in the office, anyone you supply with a desk and a phone, anyone whose work you oversee on a daily basis are always employees.</p>
<p>If you send the plans to an independent shop to build the set, that&#8217;s a sub-contractor.  If you own a shop and hire people to use your tools, they are employees.  Directors, choreographers, stage managers, and actors are employees. </p>
<p>Your lighting designer is a sub-contractor; your master electrician is an employee.  Your costume designer is a sub-contractor, but your wardrobe mistress is an employee.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the real measurement, and it has nothing to do with what one believes other people are doing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Info You Can Use: Employee or Independent Contractor by Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hans-

Yes, that is the third criteria the article I linked to mentioned. That actually seems to give you the benefit of the doubt because you didn&#039;t know any better due to industry practice. I just felt it might be hard for a lot of arts companies to get past the first point because they will call people independent contractors but impose all sorts of restrictions.  The only people I can see hitting all three are those who treated people like independent contractors but reserved the right not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hans-</p>
<p>Yes, that is the third criteria the article I linked to mentioned. That actually seems to give you the benefit of the doubt because you didn&#8217;t know any better due to industry practice. I just felt it might be hard for a lot of arts companies to get past the first point because they will call people independent contractors but impose all sorts of restrictions.  The only people I can see hitting all three are those who treated people like independent contractors but reserved the right not to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Info You Can Use: Employee or Independent Contractor by H</title>
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		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve looked into this too, though I&#039;m an administrator, not a lawyer. This is a common practice among theatre companies in the U.S., and IRS Publication 1976 says, in part:

To establish that you had a reasonable basis for not treating the workers as employees, you can show that:
...
• You treated the workers as independent
contractors because you knew that
was how a significant segment of your
industry treated similar workers;

Maybe the IRS&#039;s study into these practices will yield different rules, but for now it seems to be an established (and okay) practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve looked into this too, though I&#8217;m an administrator, not a lawyer. This is a common practice among theatre companies in the U.S., and IRS Publication 1976 says, in part:</p>
<p>To establish that you had a reasonable basis for not treating the workers as employees, you can show that:<br />
&#8230;<br />
• You treated the workers as independent<br />
contractors because you knew that<br />
was how a significant segment of your<br />
industry treated similar workers;</p>
<p>Maybe the IRS&#8217;s study into these practices will yield different rules, but for now it seems to be an established (and okay) practice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Will Fight For It? by Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Dave. I think the folks in Haiti were already operating under some form of this philosophy. It helps individuals cope with difficulties as well as the group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Dave. I think the folks in Haiti were already operating under some form of this philosophy. It helps individuals cope with difficulties as well as the group.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Will Fight For It? by Dave Goudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Goudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another approach in arts advocacy that I feel is overlooked is the part arts play in the maintenance of proper mental health. Due to the lack of public discussion and comprehension on the topic, most in the public would see this as simplistic as &quot;arts makes you feel good.&quot; But the reality is that a person&#039;s ability to balance stress comes from the perception of a larger universe and the use of imagination to reach beyond the problems directly before you. The two most common ways people achieve that are through the arts and spirituality, which also has a strong aesthetic quotient.

Mental health, however, seems to simply escape any discussion of the national well-being. When an act occurs like the crashing of a plane into the IRS last week and the person is revealed to be mentally ill, we just shrug our shoulders and say &quot;Oh well.&quot; Likewise, the amount of productivity lost due to depression and other similar ailments seems to be written off as inevitable. There may be no provable connection between arts education and mental health (many artists like Van Gogh might be used to say otherwise) but teaching young people survival techniques through artistic appreciation seems like an easier approach than continuing to ignore the issue of stress and hopelessness and suffering the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another approach in arts advocacy that I feel is overlooked is the part arts play in the maintenance of proper mental health. Due to the lack of public discussion and comprehension on the topic, most in the public would see this as simplistic as &#8220;arts makes you feel good.&#8221; But the reality is that a person&#8217;s ability to balance stress comes from the perception of a larger universe and the use of imagination to reach beyond the problems directly before you. The two most common ways people achieve that are through the arts and spirituality, which also has a strong aesthetic quotient.</p>
<p>Mental health, however, seems to simply escape any discussion of the national well-being. When an act occurs like the crashing of a plane into the IRS last week and the person is revealed to be mentally ill, we just shrug our shoulders and say &#8220;Oh well.&#8221; Likewise, the amount of productivity lost due to depression and other similar ailments seems to be written off as inevitable. There may be no provable connection between arts education and mental health (many artists like Van Gogh might be used to say otherwise) but teaching young people survival techniques through artistic appreciation seems like an easier approach than continuing to ignore the issue of stress and hopelessness and suffering the consequences.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Info You Can Use: Cell Phone Donations by Drew McManus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew McManus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Joe, especially the part about relegating social media work to younger employees. 

In general, I think this is a symptom of a larger issue of groups that look at social media efforts after the fact as opposed to incorporating them into strategic marketing planning. Marc van Bree @ Dutch Perspective has some very good material on this but I don&#039;t have a link handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Joe, especially the part about relegating social media work to younger employees. </p>
<p>In general, I think this is a symptom of a larger issue of groups that look at social media efforts after the fact as opposed to incorporating them into strategic marketing planning. Marc van Bree @ Dutch Perspective has some very good material on this but I don&#8217;t have a link handy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Edmonton Symphony Orchestra To Audition Jug Players by Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do enjoy Bill and all his wiggling ass-ets! He certainly makes concerts much more accessible - a comment we&#039;ve heard from many attendees since he became music director.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do enjoy Bill and all his wiggling ass-ets! He certainly makes concerts much more accessible &#8211; a comment we&#8217;ve heard from many attendees since he became music director.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BoardChemistry.com by Leonard Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonard Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry -- I didn&#039;t. Was a good V-Day, actually.

And thank you for the shout-out. Love your site and always have. I was just horribly behind on blogroll.

LJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry &#8212; I didn&#8217;t. Was a good V-Day, actually.</p>
<p>And thank you for the shout-out. Love your site and always have. I was just horribly behind on blogroll.</p>
<p>LJ</p>
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